Re: Fw: Here is what IBM thinks about using FreeBSD on their newer Thinkpads

From: Anders Kofoed (none@ak--mailnet.dk.lh.bsd-dk.dk)
Date: Thu 30 Nov 2000 - 12:48:34 CET


Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 12:48:34 +0100 (CET)
From: Anders Kofoed <none@ak--mailnet.dk.lh.bsd-dk.dk>
Subject: Re: Fw: Here is what IBM thinks about using FreeBSD on their newer Thinkpads
To: bsd-dk@bsd-dk.dk


On 30 Nov, Flemming Jacobsen wrote:
> Anders Kofoed wrote:
>> Nej nej.
>
> Jo, jo.
>
>> Prøv at læse hvad jeg skriver:
>> der er 1 (EN) partition på min T20 (HELE DISKEN). Der er 1 fil i c:\ der
>> hedder noget i stil med mem-dump på 256 MB. Jeg har 256 MB ram.
>>
>> Hvor er den partion der hedder 165 så ? - Jeg kan saktens lave suspend
>> to disk (win2000 hipernate).
>
> De fleste BIOSer vil "gemme" deres magiske partitions for
> Windoze/DOS - formentlig for at forhindre folk i at komme til at
> slette den.
> Flyt disken over i din stationære PC igen, så kan du sikkert se
> den.
Det har jeg ikke lige prøvet! - Det lyder sandsynligt.

VH

>
>
> FJ
>
>> On 30 Nov, Flemming Jacobsen wrote:
>> > Anders Kofoed wrote:
>> >> I happen to have a IBM T20 labtop with 256 MB of ram, which have been
>> >> assigned to me as my pc at my job.
>> >>
>> >> [ ... ]
>> >>
>> >> I then took the 2,5" disk and put it in my own pc (with a converter),
>> >> and remove the bootloader - It would not boot.
>> >> I then did all cind of things with a win2000 rescue disk and a win2000
>> >> installation cd, trying to recover the boot sequence.
>> >> But when I removed the UFS (165) partition, the win2k booted without
>> >> problems.
>> >>
>> >> I have one one question to ask: WHY ?
>> >
>> > The answer is in the text you quoted.
>> > FreeBSD has been officially assigned partition ID 165.
>> > IBM use it too for it's suspend partition. BOOM!
>> >
>> >
>> > FJ
>> >
>> >> On 30 Nov, Morten Seeberg wrote:
>> >> > Jeg synes i skulle kontakte jeres leverandør og klage, selvom i måske ikke
>> >> > kører FreeBSD, så er det godt at gøre IBM opmærksomme på, at de ikke skal
>> >> > pisse på FreeBSD brugere bare fordi reklame værdien ikke er lige så god som
>> >> > til IBM.
>> >> >
>> >> > http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/MIGR-4QHLS4.html
>> >> >
>> >> > Nedenstående mail er blevet bekræftet af flere på mailinglisterne, som også
>> >> > har prøvet.
>> >> >
>> >> > Forward videre til alle i kender der rører Thinkpads/IBM og FreeBSD.
>> >> >
>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> > From: "Mike Smith" <none@msmith--FreeBSD.ORG.lh.bsd-dk.dk>
>> >> > To: "Kevin G. Eliuk" <none@kg--dccnet.com.lh.bsd-dk.dk>
>> >> > Cc: <none@jamin@eecs.umich.edu>; <freebsd-mobile--FreeBSD.ORG.lh.bsd-dk.dk>
>> >> > Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2000 5:24 PM
>> >> > Subject: Re: Here is what IBM thinks about using FreeBSD on their newer
>> >> > Thinkpads
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> > Sugih Jamin wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > > FreeBSD - Unable to boot OS after installation on
>> >> >> > > IBM Thinkpad A20, A21, T20, T21, or X20.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Question: Does IBM reserve space on the HDD of their laptops for system
>> >> > BIOS
>> >> >> > that would cause such a problem in the event of a dedicated
>> >> > installation?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> No. Some fool at IBM (or whomever they contracted the BIOS development
>> >> >> out to) decided to use partition ID 165 for the suspend-to-disk
>> >> >> partition, and the IBM BIOS gets very, very upset when it finds what it
>> >> >> thinks is an enormous suspend-to-disk partition on the disk.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The "right" solution here is to bug IBM to resepect the already-assigned
>> >> >> partition ID numbers (if you are a large IBM customer) or to buy a better
>> >> >> notebook. If you're stuck with a ThinkPad, there are several viable
>> >> >> workarounds that will let you thumb your nose at IBM and get on with your
>> >> >> work (see the list archives).
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his
>> >> >> rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want
>> >> >> to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force
>> >> >> people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt]
>> >> >> V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
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