Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 15:17:46 +0100
From: Philippe Regnauld <none@regnauld--deepo.prosa.dk.lh.bsd-dk.dk>
To: bsd-dk@hotel.prosa.dk
Subject: Re: {Free,Net}BSD
Sune Stjerneby writes:
>
> I'm in too. I think a general interest might show if the group was
> announced or publicized in some way. I know of a couple here, and I
> converted one to BSD yesterday 8).
I had originally registered the creation of a BSD/DK user group
at http://www.freebsd.org/support.html#user :
"The Danish *BSD user group, BSD/DK, is being created. Send mail
subscription request to bsd-dk-request@hotel.prosa.dk. No initial
meeting planned yet"
As you can see I was cautious :-)
Let's discuss a bit more what the role of the UG should be,
and what we're up to/willing to do for new users, etc...
Then we can start "advertising" through other user groups & organizations
-- I'm sure DKUUG wouldn't mind sticking a post here and there.
> I've heard from newcomers ('advanced PC users') who prefer the
> ports/pkgsrc-collection over various .deb/.rpm/... solutions, though.
Oh yes -- the average UNIX experience of FreeBSD users is higher, and
they like the dual source|binary approach (i.e.: patch before you roll).
> > Experiences, tips, evaluations -> some decent articles about FreeBSD
> > in Danish newspapers/magazines (Computerworld, and the rest) --
> > "We're using FreeBSD and it works!"
>
> I know CyberCity is using FreeBSD for some (all?) server operations -
> perhaps someone should ask them to detail this.
Poul-Henning Kamp <none@phk--freebsd.org.lh.bsd-dk.dk> work(s|ed) for them -- there's
FreeBSDs all over :-)
> > http://hotel.prosa.dk/~regnauld/ekstra-linux.jpg
>
> Reminds me of an article in PC World Danmark recently (on Linux),
> claiming that Linux is 'the only OS' to support a multitude of hardware
> platforms (ever heard of (Net,Open}BSD?). This is similar to the trend
> of referring to Linux as a 'UNIX-platform' and using the term
> 'UNIX/Linux' when generally referring to UNIX issues..
Yes, very irritating -- it's also making it easy for anti-UNIX
advocates to say, "see, there's 20 UNIX distributions,
and Linux doesn't even consider itself one of them"...
This is unfortunately the problem with PC World / Alt om Data, and
all other PC generalist publications.
There's two ways to go about it:
- criticize them as incompetent columnists who probably discovered
computing by accident and don't know what they're talking about,
even less outside the world of PC compatibles (which is more or less
what most computer professionals have been doing for years, refusing
to work with/read these magazines)
- do something about it and offer technically interesting *and*
"mentally provocative" articles that are likely to be published
by those magazines, like:
o "Be a Rebel, run Linux!"
o "The truth is out there: X-BSD"
etc...
I very much share Jordan's <none@jkh--freebsd.org.lh.bsd-dk.dk> point of view
that we should encourage BSD *and* Linux at the same time -- what's
good for them is usually good for us (binary compatibility makes it
more so).
Of course, these magazines are more likely to want Product Reviews,
than "Howto" articles. So it's best to aim for existing solutions,
or even commercial products for *BSD -- Stronghold, Netscape stuff,
backup servers, etc...
Suggestions ?
--
-[ Philippe Regnauld / Sysadmin ]-
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